What Should Be Considered When Purchasing Diesel Generator Set

14 Jul.,2025

 

What Should Be Considered When Purchasing Diesel Generator Set

As an emergency backup power source, diesel generator sets are increasingly accepted and used by many industries due to its reliability, timeliness and safety. However, purchasing a suitable diesel generator set is not an easy task.

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If you decide to buy a diesel generator set, you are advised to read the below instructions before placing an order.

1. Common Enquiry

A. Power supply parameters: output voltage 230V/400V, frequency 50HZ, genset speed r/min.

B. Automatic display and recording of operating data: including water temperature, oil pressure, speed and running hours.

C. Protection device: diesel engine overspeed, start or stop failure, low oil pressure, high oil temperature, excessive cooling water temperature, generator overload, short circuit, loss of pressure and failure of the vehicle, etc, the genset will give alarm according to different conditions (including lighting, audible alarm), open and even stop automatically.

D. It should be equipped with 24V DC starter motor and battery as electric starting system battery power is monitored by computer control.

2. Capacity

A. The rated operating power of the generator set is not less than the rated power of the stable load.

B. The standby operation power of the generator set is not less than the peak power of the load.

C. When the maximum motor starts, the instantaneous voltage drop of the generator is no more than 15%-20%.

3. Selections of Starting Method

There are three ways to start a diesel engine: manual start, electric start and compressed air start. Among them, the electric starting is to use the electric motor as the power to drive the crankshaft to rotate through the transmission mechanism, so that the diesel engine is started, the power supply battery used by the electric motor, and the starting mode should be adopted in the high rise building. At the same time, the selected genset should be equipped with fast automatic start and automatic power switch device to ensure power supply within 15s after the power supply of the city network is interrupted.

4. Speed

The diesel engine used for power generation has an adjustment diesel engine with a speed of not less than r/min, the medium speed diesel engine has two speeds of 750r/min and 600r/min. In the high rise building, an adjustment unit with a rotational speed of r/min should be used. This unit has a large volume per unit volume, so the volume is small and the weight is light, which can save floor space. The disadvantages of large running parts and short life spans are not considered for emergency genset with short running times.

5. Does The Generator Set Have a Supercharger?

When the generator set is equipped with a supercharger, the air required for combustion is supercharged by the supercharger and sent to the diesel engine, so that the density of the intake air is greatly increased. The same cylinder volume can burn more fuel, and the same type of non-supercharging. After the diesel engine is boosted, its output power can be increased by 50%. the turbocharger of the general diesel engine is an exhaust gas turbocharger, and the exhaust gas discharged from the diesel engine drives its work. The main disadvantage of the supercharged diesel engine is that the supercharger has a high rotational speed, short life span, and is prone to failure. But currently, the new machine has solved these problem and make it better.

6. Excitation Mode Selection

There are many kinds of excitation devices, such as a generator with a DC exciter, a self-excited constant voltage generator without a DC exciter, and a brushless excitation generator. The brushless excitation generator is a new type of generator developed in recent years. This kind of generator completely eliminates various carbon brushes and it reliable in operation. When used with the automatic voltage regulating device, the static voltage adjustment rate error can be guaranteed within 2.5%. This type of machine can adapt to various operating modes, and it is easy to realize automatic or remote control of the genset.

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7. Selection of Cooling Method

There are two types of cooling methods for diesel engines: water cooling and air cooling. The complete unit of closed water circulation cooling is widely used in high-rise buildings due to its small footprint.

8. Selection of Genset Automatic Power

As an emergency generator set, the genset can quickly supply power to the emergency load when the external power supply fails. Therefore, the generator set should have the single-machine automation functions such as emergency self-start, automatic shutdown, automatic fault protection and recording mentioned above. For the specific situation, the following automation functions are selected.

A. Automatic grading loading: Some units are not allowed to suddenly increase the full load, and also prevent the inductive load from starting at the same time. Automatic grading loading can be set.

B. Automatic parallel: When the unit is automatically connected, the automatic parallel system can be set to automatically parallel the vehicle in the same way.

C. Automatic frequency modulation and load regulation: When the machine is running in parallel, the unit throttle is automatically adjusted to keep the power supply frequency and the load of each unit within the allowable deviation range.

D. Remote control of the unit: The genset needs to have RS232 standard interface and communication protocol, in line with the world-wide Lonworks technical standards.

E. Automatically maintain the starting state: The auxiliary system of the generator's starting, lubrication, fuel and cooling should be automatically kept ready to start, including automatic charging, automatic heating of lubricating oil and cooling water.

Traps We Should Beware of When Purchasing Diesel Generator Set

1. Only report the diesel engine or generator brand, do not report to the place of production, do not report the genset brand, such as Cummins in the United States, Volvo in Sweden, and Stamford in the United Kingdom. In fact, it is impossible for any diesel generator set to be completed independently by a single company. Customers should fully understand the diesel engine, generator, control cabinet manufacturer and brand of the unit in order to comprehensively evaluate the grade of the generator set.

2. The second mobile refurbished machine was sold to the customer as a brand new machine, and the refurbished diesel engine was equipped with a new generator and control cabinet, so that the general non-professional users could not tell whether it was a new machine or an old machine.

3. Regardless of the relationship between long-line (rated) power and backup power, only one "power" is used, and the backup power is sold to the customer as long-term power. In fact, backup power = 1.1x long line power. Moreover, the backup power can only be used for 1 hour in 12 hours of continuous operation.

4. Confuse the relationship between KVA and KW. Think of KVA as KW and sell it to customers. In fact, KVA is the apparent power, KW is the effective power, and the relationship between them is IKVA=0.8KW. Imported genny generally use KVA to represent power units, while domestic power equipment is generally indicated by KW. Therefore, when calculating power, KVA should be converted into KW by 8 fold.

5. The power of the diesel engine is as large as the power of the generator to reduce costs. In fact, the industry generally stipulates that diesel engine power ≥ generator power is 10% because of mechanical losses. Even worse, some diesel engine horsepower is misreported to the user as kilowatts, and the diesel engine is used to configure the unit. It is commonly known as: small horse-drawn cart, and the unit life is reduced, maintenance is frequent, and the use fee is No high.

6. The genset without protection function (commonly known as four protections) is sold to the customer as a fully functional unit. What's more, the generator set with incomplete meters and no air switch is sold to the customer. In fact, the industry generally requires more than 10KW units must be equipped with full instrument (commonly known as five meters) and air switches; large units and automation units must have self-protection.

7. Do not talk about random accessories, such as with no silencer, fuel tank, oil pipeline, what grade battery, large capacity battery, several batteries and so on. In fact, these attachments are important and must be stated in the contract. What's more, even the water tank fan is not included, allowing customers to open the pool.

8. Regardless of the brand grade of diesel engines and generators, the configuration of control systems, not to mention after-sales service, we only talk about price and delivery time. Some will also use non-power station special oil engines, such as: marine diesel engines, and vehicle diesel engines for generator sets. The quality (voltage and frequency) of the end product of the unit cannot be guaranteed. Units with too low a price are generally problematic

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Author C. Burnett
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Points: 133 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Topic: Deutz. Would you buy one?
    Posted: 11 Feb at 9:02pm Anybody have an opinion one way or the other on the pre AC merger Deutz. I've looked at some but don't know about parts availability, rebuild costs, etc. I've heard they were fuel efficient but haven't heard much else. Would you buy one that needed work? Sponsored Links scott in tenn
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Points: 63 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 11 Feb at 9:13pm My uncle has owned Deutz since the early 70's. A and now a . Both have been very good dependable tractors, and yes they are easy on fuel. I overhauled the for him and didnt have a problem finding parts. In our area of Tennessee, Duetz is starting to make a come back as the New holland dealer is selling them now. Hope this helps. victoryallis
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 11 Feb at 9:16pm Wouldn't pay more for one than it's worth in scrap since that all those motors are good for.  Our R52 has one and that is the weak point in the combine. They may be easy on fuel but heavy on headaches. ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 11 Feb at 9:21pm My dad has a as well.   He used it on the farm with a loader for many years and when he got out of farming sold it through a local dealer.   Found it again last summer and bought it back.   Other then some minor problems(bad ball joint, alternator shot, leaking power steering box, tires), it ran like a top.   My dad had all the minor things fixed and new tires put on all the way around.    Seeing as this was the only tractor my dad bought new, and it survived on the farm when my brother was helping run things as he was (and is) very abusive on things, I would say you can't go wrong with one.   I wanted my dad to buy it back as he used to have a garden tractor seat mounted on the fender for me to sit in when we baled hay and I was too small to help stack.   They are very easy on fuel.   Every one I have ever talked to has said that about them.   WD45 diesel was my dad's tractor, D15 , HD3 Crawler , D17 IV , WC , D19 klinemar
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 11 Feb at 9:22pm I had a Deutz motor I installed in a Uni Harvester after the GM diesel boat anchor blew for the second time.The Deutz was a good dependable motor with plenty of power for its size.The only problem I can see is parts availability as there are not many Deutz dealers in the country.Anyone I have ever talked to that owned a Deutz has told me they would buy another if they only had a Dealer close . Denis in MI
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Points: 832 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 11 Feb at 9:32pm I have wondered about them myself.  I have seen 4x4 models around 50hp sell at local farm auctions for around and thought that that seemed cheap for a 4x4 tractor but I haven't been brave enough to buy one.  I heard the engines ae easy on fuel but I am not sure about the air cooled part. B, B, IB, C, 2 WCs, 3 WDs, WD, 2 WD45, D-14 Byron WC in SW Wi
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 11 Feb at 9:45pm Deutz was bought out by the Same-Lomborghini-Hurlman group and are now known as the Same-Lomboghini-Deutz group.  They used to use air cooled engines and AGCO's first tractors were of that lineage and air cooled.  Now they just have the water cooled diesels.  Their engines are still very good and their solid tractors.

Negative:
Their resale will be bad.
They tend to be lever happy but some of the more advanced machines will compare to any other manufacturer. 

Positive:
Big plus is they are NOT a publicly traded company so they will care more for the customer than others.
If my tractor sells I will probably get an AGCO GT which is essentially a Deutz painted orange.  It's an AGCO and orange but I can get parts from my local family owned Deutz dealer so yes I would buy one.

Solid tractors.
DougG
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 5:10am I wouldnt be afraid at all to buy one , I put some hrs on a ,it was a good pulling tractor , the engines are some of the best out there , with decent matinance they run for ever ; have some lulls with the motors at the real job and they are going great ; Deutz dealers are around and Ive heard the parts are better than it used to be , and there are more dealers popping out too   Burgie
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 5:22am Victoryallis, You have to keep the motor CLEAN. In combine that chaff will get in those fins and even start a fire. A VW on steroids is what the motor reminds me of. "Burgie" Wade (IA)
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Points: 232 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 6:06am My FIL bought a this winter.  It's quite a horse for the money and even that big motor is easy on fuel.  It does take a football field or 2 turn it around though.... John WV
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Points: 273 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 6:07am My dad had a Duetz  that I used  EVERY day for 30 years never  done anything to it  but change the oil The dealer in winchester that he brought  from grow up in germany during world war 2 and he said that the motor is the same motor that the germans used in the tiger tank. and every easy on fuel it held 30 gal.  I never seen any other tractor like it . there are no dealers around here or there would be one setting in my sheld right now. yes I would buy one in a heart beat. Daehler
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 6:57am Its a nice motor to have, since you dont have to worry about a radiator but like its been said you do have to keep them clean. series are pullin machines and easy on fuel. HagerAC
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 7:17am If you treat them right, and proper maintenance is given, they will run forever. 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 20-35, to a FWA, Gleaner R52 Lonn
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 7:22am Allis dealer that I worked at had a FWA for their own farming and it was trouble free except for a piece of silicone that was floating in the fuel tank for a while and a loose hydraulic line under the cab. I didn't like changing the oil filters as they were in an akward spot and always made a mess. It was about the easiest starting and smoothest big diesel I've been around. Before and after every season I would take the covers off to blow out the fins but not once was there any amount of debris in them. They really liked that tractor but it did take some ground to turn around compared to the FWA series they had. They also had a that they really liked and it was a comfortable tractor to drive and very quiet.Now the and Deutz-Allis tractors, although they had good engines, were a little weak in the transmission and the neighbor had one that he pulled the drawbar right off of. Then the repair manuals we had for these were so hard to understand.The customers who had combines with Deutz engines preferred them over the later Cummings too. They had better torque and fuel economy than the Cummings. The 4 years I was there I only heard complaints from the farmers who never owned a Deutz engine. -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... -
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 8:18am I have a D that my FIL bought and I inherited. That thing is a great tractor and will pull like a little dynamo. I have pulled a 6 row no til planter with it and use it as my main bush hog tractor. I've looked to buy another one, but can't find one that is reasonably priced. If the junk I am looking at is worth $ then mine must be worth $10,000. Russ SCPA
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Points: 256 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 4:50pm I have 2 Deutz Allis tractors and an R 50 with the Deutz engine. Would I buy another one?   YES, over anything available new today.  gleaner1
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Points: 225 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 5:12pm   Our farm switched from MF and Deere to Allis during the Deutz era,  never had anything Allis before,  Back in the day,we had a Deutz Allis,  R50, and R52, all with Deutz air cooled motors.fantastic motors they were, had to keep cooling fins clean always.Looking back now we may have been better off if Deutz remained the ownership over the whole Agco fiasco.  Lets see now, when Agco took over we still had Deutz engines, then detroit, then sisu, then cummins, then back to sisu, we all complain of color and name changes, look at how many brands of engines we have gone through.    AGCO  A Global Clueless Operation. ALLIS CHALMERS "The color is orange" Ryan Renko
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 6:01pm We all know that when it comes to operation and routine maintanance its one extreme or the other. Some people respect their investment for what it is and care for it while others run the p*ss out of their equipment with little or NO maintanance. I have only heard great things about these motors!!! Yes the Gleaners needed to be kept clean but wasnt that in the owners manual?? Ryan orangepower
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Points: 96 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 6:36pm dad has a dx 160 fwd and a da fwd. both very dependable tractors, use the as a planter tractor, and have never put a wrench on it in the 10 yrs we have owned it, the dx 160 had one problem 4th gear had some wear and would go past where it should and  stick in 4th a couple of times we have owned it for over 15yrs bought it used with hrs on its, been very good. 45 diesel puller, 45 gas puller, ca puller MUM FARMER
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Points: 95 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 7:17pm Hi Ive owned  and the big block 6 turbo irrigation pump small block 6 irriation pump V8 naturaly aspirated irrigation pump all excellent running engines just keep the fins clean check for mice and there nests also still have the pumps and the s victoryallis
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 7:49pm Seriously are you high????????  We blow that p.o.s out every day or so our problems aren't from not blowing it out.  The motor keeps us sitting on pins and needles.  We have even considered junking the motor and putting a Cummins in it.  I wish the 52 had the same motor as our .  The was rescued from sitting in a fence row for 3-4 years when we bought it threw fresh batteries in it drove it home 100 miles change fluids and put it to work.  The farm it came off had nothing for a maintenance program  a little TLC and it is serving us well.  I have a uncle that had a 100 06 he wasn't impresssed with that either no way to pre heat the motor for winter chores. The air cooled wonder has spent more time apart than our 6 tractors combined. MUM FARMER
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Points: 95 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 12 Feb at 8:33pm In comparrison I have 4w220 4w305 and the would run circles around all but the 305 and if you put the side buy side with the 305 it wouldnt be very far behind the big six 574 will really run but will eat 12 to13 gallons an hour Spud
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Points: 601 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 13 Feb at 9:41am The real Deutz tractors are good for livestock work but are not really a heavy tillage pulling machine.  The Deutz Allis series however are well suited to heavy pulling with the White transmission/rear end. I have run Deutz engine in Deutz Allis tractors and in mud pumps and generators in the oilfield and always found them to be a good engine.
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 13 Feb at 10:00am Deutz used to like to push the fuel efficiency of their engines.  During the last days of the "real" Allis-Chalmers, I spent some time looking for alternate engines to use in place of the Harvey engines.  The Deutz bare engine fuel consumption maps were nothing special to look at.  The B and C Series Cummins engines (new at that time) were significantly better.

The reason the Deutz tractors had good fuel efficiency in Nebraska tests had a lot more to do with low parasitic hp draws of their tractors.  Their hydraulic systems had very low output and their cooling systems weren't designed to handle the high ambient operating temperatures common in much of North America.  Their tractors of that era didn't offer shift on the go transmissions either, which do add slightly to parasitic hp loads.  The lack of those features made for good looking fuel economy numbers at Nebraska, but limited the real productivity of those tractors in many North American applications.
Mark

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Points: 518 Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 13 Feb at 10:08am Neighbor has one. Called a dealership that sold them at one time. Asked about filters. Parts man said he would have to dig out his old parts books and call him back. Never heard anything from the dealer. deutz engines are ok when used in the right area, they actually will last longer than a liquid cooled engine, we have put them on the dyno in 95 degree weather and you can pull the dipstick and the oil is warm to touch not burning like a liquid cooled engine, thats what makes them last longer, not to say they dont fail because they do but usually it is because the fins get plugged from debris either from a valve cover leak that was not fixed or fuel leak causing jugs to get plugged. we have overhauled a lot of deutz engines and have rarely been in the bottom half, and they are not cheap if you use genuine deutz parts but then again nothing is. the killer was knowone believed in the air cooled engine when allis and deutz merged and then they went backwards with the introduction of series with the old over under tranny when they had a good 6 speed powershift, so we lost a lot of customers, then they tried to paint them orange but it was to late. my 2 cents! I think overall the Deutz motor is a very good one.  Would I ever own one?  No, just not for me I guess.  Parts are harder to come by and expensive if you find them, but it seems all repair parts are now days.  I've seen all the problems of them in the combines and as for irrigation motors the mice love to build nests in air chambers in the winter.  The parts books we have for our irrigation motors at work are written in German.  Basically when you need parts for one and it's something that hasn't been written down in the book in English over the past 25 years you have to call the supplier.  They won't speak to you without a model and serial number off the motor. Matt Folkers

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Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. victoryallis
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 13 Feb at 5:27pm If these are so great why are some dealers afraid to take the air cooled Gleaners in on trade even?  My other point is if they are so great why don't we see more of them?  In recent times how many Duetz's do you see compared to Cummin's, Cat's, Deere's or Detriot's in stuff made by smaller manufactures.  I know of two Duetz tractors in the county that are junked because it cost more to fix them than they are worth.  Granted you have that with any brand with any brand but I doubt 1/3 of the AC's, IH's or Deere's are just given up on for that reason.  Like the hired hand says about different stuff "there's a reason they don't do it like that anymore". Lonn
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 13 Feb at 7:48pm victoryallis wrote:

If these are so great why are some dealers afraid to take the air cooled Gleaners in on trade even?  My other point is if they are so great why don't we see more of them?  In recent times how many Duetz's do you see compared to Cummin's, Cat's, Deere's or Detriot's in stuff made by smaller manufactures.  I know of two Duetz tractors in the county that are junked because it cost more to fix them than they are worth.  Granted you have that with any brand with any brand but I doubt 1/3 of the AC's, IH's or Deere's are just given up on for that reason.  Like the hired hand says about different stuff "there's a reason they don't do it like that anymore". Some reasons........foreign built by a foreign company using air cooled diesel technology which was and is foreign to the farm market in the US. -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... -
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Points: Post Options    Thanks(0)    Quote  Reply Posted: 13 Feb at 8:04pm